EP 5: Terri Morris Allegation
Liberty Station Apartments:
Alleged Rape Location:
Alleged Location Holtzclaw Started to go into Field to Possibly Sexually Assault Morris Again. Defense claims Holtzclaw actually paused here to let Morris out because her grandmother lived on the cross street and Morris didn’t want to be seen pulling up in a police car.
Below are the Oklahoma City police reports relevant to this episode. I have redacted personal information where necessary.
Below is the video and audio recorded first interview between Detective Rocky Gregory and accuser Terri L. Morris.
Bates Investigates
Episode 5 ׀Daniel Holtzclaw: Terri Morris Allegations
[OPENING MUSIC]
Disclaimer: This podcast deals with adult subject matter, including depictions of drug addiction, prostitution, sexual assault, and rape. Parental guidance is suggested.
00:37[OPENING AUDIO COLLAGE]
Newscaster: Officer Daniel Holtzclaw, with the Police Department for three years, is accused of raping and sexually assaulting women he pulled over while on the job.
Jannie Ligons: He said, ‘Come on, come on, just a minute, just a minute’. I say, ‘Sir, I can’t do this’. I say, ‘you gonna shoot...’
Det. Kim Davis: Tell me your description of him.
Sherri Ellis: He’s black.
Det. Kim Davis: He’s b—okay, he’s a black male.
Det. Kim Davis: What did your daughter tell you?
Amanda Gates: She said, ‘I met this really hot cop’.
Shardayreon Hill: So, this is good evidence?
Det. Rocky Gregory: Well, you tell me.
[OPENING AUDIO COLLAGE ENDS]
Timestamp: The following episode contains investigative events which occurred between May 24thand June 24, 2014.
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Host:Welcome back to Bates Investigates, the podcast, Season One - The State of Oklahoma vs. Daniel Holtzclaw. When I left off in episode four, twenty-seven year old Oklahoma City Patrol Officer, Daniel Holtzclaw, had been accused of sexually assaulting a fifty-seven year old grandmother named Jannie Ligons, during an off-the-clock traffic stop. Only hours later, Holtzclaw was interrogated by sex crimes detectives Kim Davis and Rocky Gregory as their boss, Lieutenant Tim Muzny, watched from another room. Subsequently, Holtzclaw was placed on administrative leave and sent home. A forensic analysis of Holtzclaw's patrol car, surveillance video, and a SANE exam of his accuser, all came back with no evidence supporting the allegations. Regardless, both the detectives were of the opinion they not only had their man, but that he must be a serial offender. That opinion was only magnified when only days later OCPD Crime Lab Analyst Elaine Taylor contacted the detectives to tell them that she had found female DNA on the fly of Holtzclaw's uniform pants and it wasn't from accuser Ligons. Only five days after her alleged sexual assault, Ligons decides to make her claims public by doing an exclusive and anonymous interview with a local TV news station. After Daniel Holtzclaw was relieved of duty and sent home to await his fate, Detective Rocky Gregory began to fill in Detective Davis on the Terri Morris Allegations. You'll recall Detective Gregory questioned Holtzclaw about the contact he may have had with Morris and how she was, in Detective Gregory's opinion, making the same allegations as Ligons. The case into Terry Morris’ allegations began in an early morning 911 call on May 24, 2014. The call was placed by sixty-one year old Oklahoma City resident, Christopher Shelton, a recent and former boyfriend of forty-three year old accuser, Terri Morris.
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Terri Morris: [inaudible][yelling] Ain’t gonna do that.
911 Operator:Oklahoma City 911, what’s your emergency?
Terri Morris: [yelling] That happened to me [inaudible].
911 Operator:Hello?
Christopher Shelton:Hello?
Terri Morris: [inaudible][yelling] They talking about some obeyance and gotdamn [inaudible].
911 Operator:Hello?
Terri Morris: [sobbing] [shuffling noises] I feel like a mother fucker done ripped my heart out and tried to put it back inside. I feel like, uh, some, I feel like, uh…
Christopher Shelton:Hello?
Terri Morris: [inaudible][sobbing]
911 Operator:Can you hear me?
Christopher Shelton:Yes, sir.
911 Operator:Where are you?
Christopher Shelton:I’m on Twenty Third and Kelley.
Terri Morris: [yelling in background]
911 Operator:Okay, are you at a house or at the intersection?
Christopher Shelton:I’m at the Valero on Twenty Third and Kelley.
Terri Morris: [yelling in background]
911 Operator:What—what’s going on there, sir?
Christopher Shelton:Uh, I seen a friend of mine, she was walking down Kelley, so I…
Terri Morris: [inaudible] I ain’t your friend! I was your girlfriend!
Christopher Shelton:… Saw her in the street so I gave her a ride.
911 Operator:Okay.
Christopher Shelton:I was gonna take her home to her grandmomma’s house, but she wouldn’t get out, so she told me to take her on Twenty Third.
Terri Morris: [yelling in background]
Christopher Shelton:Now, I been trying to get her out for the last thirty minutes and now she’s saying…
Terri Morris: [yelling in background]
911 Operator:Okay, are you in the, uh, in the Valero?
Terri Morris: [yelling in background]
Christopher Shelton:Pardon?
911 Operator:You in the—at, at the Valero, is that right?
Christopher Shelton:Yes, sir.
911 Operator:What kind of car you in, sir?
Terri Morris: [yelling in background]
Christopher Shelton:I’m in a 1992 Acura Legend.
911 Operator:What color?
Christopher Shelton:Uh, it is, uh, tan. [banging noises] She’s tearing the inside of my car up. She’s drunk.
Terri Morris: [yelling in background]
911 Operator:Uh, what’s your name sir?
Christopher Shelton:My name’s Christopher Shelton.
Terri Morris: Shelton. Christopher Shelton. Christopher Shelton.
911 Operator:What’s her—
Christopher Shelton:Man, she’s yanking stuff out of my car.
Terri Morris: [yelling in background]
911 Operator:What’s, uh, what’s her name, sir?
Terri Morris: [yelling in background]
Christopher Shelton:Her name’s Terri Lynn Morris.
911 Operator:Is she white, black, Hispanic or Indian?
Christopher Shelton:She’s black. She’s—
911 Operator:How old is she?
Christopher Shelton:She’s tearing my car up.
911 Operator:I understand.
Christopher Shelton:She’s forty-three.
Terri Morris: You hurt me!
911 Operator:Okay. She still in the car?
Christopher Shelton:Well, she finally got out now. Now she, now she throwing stuff at me.
Terri Morris: [inaudible] police [sobbing] [Inaudible screaming]
Christopher Shelton:I, I told you I was, Terri Lynn, but you wasn’t get out.
Terri Morris: [Inaudible screaming]
Christopher Shelton:She’s hitting on me and maybe crying.
Terri Morris: [Inaudible screaming]
911 Operator:Is she drunk or on drugs?
Christopher Shelton:Inaudible
Terri Morris: [Inaudible screaming] on my purse.
911 Operator:Christopher, is she on—drunk or on drugs?
Terri Morris: [Inaudible screaming]
Christopher Shelton:Yeah, something wrong with her. I just want somebody to come get her. I don’t hit women or anything.
911 Operator:What color shirt and pants she wearing?
Christopher Shelton:She got a black dress on.
911 Operator:Look like [inaudible].
Christopher Shelton:I—I was trying to help her, but, damn.
Terri Morris: You was trying to help me. [Inaudible screaming]
Christopher Shelton:Now she’s throwing my damn CD’s out.
Terri Morris: [Inaudible screaming]
911 Operator:Yes, sir. Look like she—or does she have any weapons?
Christopher Shelton:Nah, she’s just tearing my dern car up.
Terri Morris: Yeah. [inaudible]
911 Operator:The officer’s already driving to you.
Terri Morris: [Inaudible screaming]
Christopher Shelton:Yeah.
911 Operator:Look like she need an ambulance?
Christopher Shelton:She just tore my, my stereo apart.
Terri Morris: How you trying to help me?
Christopher Shelton:They’re, they’re on their way here, Terri.
Terri Morris: I don’t care. It’s them—they the one that raped me.
Christopher Shelton:You, you done tore my damn…
Terri Morris: They the one that raped me. So you done called the people, the same motherfuckers that raped me. I don’t know. I don’t even know. The police [inaudible].
Christopher Shelton:Could you hurry up here, sir?
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911 Operator:Sir, I’m not driving. The officer’s driving.
Terri Morris: Yeah, cause when they do come [inaudible] Let me describe the police that raped me the other night.
911 Operator:Yeah, you should see them very close. Uh, very soon, sir.
Christopher Shelton:Uh, she just tore my radio out.
Terri Morris: You done called, yeah, you talking about a friend [inaudible]
911 Operator:Let me know when you see the officer.
Christopher Shelton:Oh, yeah, she’s trying. I’m shutting the door. She’s up here tearing my stuff up. I mean [laugh].
Terri Morris: [Inaudible screaming]
911 Operator:Do you see the officer?
Christopher Shelton:Here he is.
Terri Morris: You said you loved me! [inaudible]
Christopher Shelton:Do I need to stay on the phone?
911 Operator:Uh, did the officer find you?
Christopher Shelton:Yeah, here they are.
911 Operator:All right. Talk to them, okay?
Christopher Shelton:Yeah.
911 Operator:All right.
Christopher Shelton:All right, thank you.
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Host:That 911 call is exclusive to this podcast. I obtained it through a freedom of information request. Amazingly, it was not a part of the discovery in this case and was never presented at trial. And, in all fairness, I think that was an oversight and a mistake by the prosecution. Had it been played, it would have possibly been damaging to Daniel's defense. Why? About two minutes and fifty seconds into the call, you heard Terri Morris make the following, and seemingly unprovoked, statement: "You just called the people ... the same motherfuckers that raped me." She goes on to indicate she was raped by a police officer. If true, this is the only proof in this case of an accuser, beyond Ligons, to allege a sexual assault without first being prompted to do so and prior to any allegations being made public. Remember, this was May 24, 2014, and Ligons didn’t get pulled over until June 18th of that same year. Around 3 a.m. Oklahoma City Police Officer, Dan Williams, and his recruit rookie partner, Officer Jonathan Thomas, were dispatched to the Valero gas station, located at the corner of Northeast Twenty Third and Kelley in Northeast Oklahoma City. When they arrived they found Terri Morris disheveled and walking aimlessly in the parking lot near Chris Shelton's vehicle. At the time, Oklahoma City patrol officers did not have body cams, nor dash cams, so the following comes directly from their written reports. According to Officer Thomas' report, "On 5/24/2014 at approximately 0300 hours I responded to Northeast Twenty Third and Kelley Avenue in reference to a domestic call. Upon my arrival I made contact with victim Morris and involved party Shelton. Shelton stated that Morris called him upset and asked him to pick her up. Morris was acting very hyper and was unable to stand still. She was crying and stated she had been raped."
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Because of Morris' demeanor, rookie officer Thomas asked her if she had done any drugs recently. She replied that she had smoked some crack just a few hours ago. According to trial testimony, Morris and Shelton were separated and questioned individually. When Thomas asked Morris who raped her, she stated it was a police officer. She claimed the rape occurred within the last couple of days and gave the specific dates May 20th or 21st. Morris said she was in downtown Oklahoma City walking to the City Rescue Mission from a drug rehabilitation facility in the immediate area when the officer stopped her and placed her in the backseat of his patrol car. She described the officer as about forty years old, muscular, clean shaven with dark skin and black hair. She said the officer ran her for warrants and had her step out of the patrol car and told her to unzip her pants. Morris claims that when she questioned the officer as to why, the officer said he could take her to jail, but would let her go if she "sucked his dick." Morris said that the officer never touched her vagina and never tried to have vaginal intercourse. She said the officer then unzipped his pants and exposed his erect penis. She said she placed his penis in her mouth for a short period of time and that then he removed his penis and put it back in his pants. Morris said the officer did not ejaculate and when the sexual assault was over, he had her get back into his patrol car and told her he was going drop her off at the City Rescue Mission. She told Thomas that the police officer then drove her around for a few minutes before simply stopping in a back alley and telling her to get out. Morris did not recall exactly where she was picked up or where she was dropped off. Officer Thomas noted that Morris said the officer in question was wearing an Oklahoma City police uniform and badge and was driving a black and white patrol car.
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When asked why she didn’t report the rape before now, Morris indicated it was because she was scared. Officer Williams then contacted Oklahoma City Police Lieutenant Michelle Holland and asked her to come to his location. Lieutenant Holland arrived at the Valero around 3:30 a.m. She asked Morris to recount what had happened. Lieutenant Holland stated in her report that Morris told the exact same story she had previously told to Officers Thomas and Williams. In fact, the Lieutenant specifically stated "they [referring to Thomas and Williams] later stated her story did not change about the events when she re-told them to me." Lieutenant Holland does this in her report to give credibility to Morris and her allegations. Credibility I would argue you'll soon learn is undeserved and is yet another example of how easily investigators can become bias during an investigation. Lieutenant Holland then placed a call to the on-call sex crimes detective. No reason is given, but that detective said they would not be responding to the scene. Unthwarted, Lieutenant Holland next calls her watch commander, Captain Melvin Davis and advised him of the situation. Captain Davis advises to get all of Morris and Shelton's information, complete a report, and that it would be submitted to sex crimes for further investigation. Lieutenant Holland then offered to give Morris a ride to wherever she needed to go. Morris declined that offer and left on foot. Shelton reportedly drove away in his vehicle. Less than two hours later, Lieutenant Holland is dispatched to the Sooner Haven apartment complex near Northeast Thirty Sixth and North Prospect Avenue. That’s just over a mile and a quarter from the Valero at Northeast Twenty Third and Kelley. A woman had called 911 claiming that an unknown female was outside her apartment, banging on the door and windows and trying to gain entry. When Lieutenant Holland arrived, she recognized the woman outside the apartment as Terri Morris. The female resident who called police initially claimed she didn't know who Morris was. Lieutenant Holland, however, noted in her report that she later learned that the female was lying and that she did indeed know Morris. Also noted in the report was that Lieutenant Holland noticed Christopher Shelton's vehicle was parked just outside the apartment also. We later learn that the apartment belonged to Shelton's new girlfriend and that Morris was upset over that fact and had come to confront them both. Lieutenant Holland notes that she allowed Morris to walk to another apartment, knock on the door, and that the unidentified male who answered agreed to let Morris come in and sleep in his apartment.
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Three days later, on May 27th, the Morris case was assigned to Detective Rocky Gregory for further investigation. As with Ligons' complaint, less than a month later, Morris' complaint is taken very seriously. Detective Gregory begins by requesting the names of all officers who have recently pulled up Terri Morris' information on their patrol car Mobile Data Computer or MDC. On April 11, 2014 at 8:46 a.m., Patrol Officer Jeff Sellers did a records check on Morris. Remember that name, Jeff Sellers. Detective Gregory then inquired as to what officers had run Morris through the Varuna database. That check showed that Daniel Holtzclaw had run Morris on May 8th at around 9 p.m. Both inquires showed that Morris had no warrants at the time and in both instances Officer Sellers and Officer Holtzclaw were not anywhere near the downtown Oklahoma City Rescue Mission when they encountered Morris. Detective Gregory next sought the AVL or GPS history of Officers Sellers and Holtzclaw on the dates Morris claims she was sexually assaulted, May 20th and 21st. Sergeant Sellers was listed as light duty and was not working on the streets on those dates. Officer Holtzclaw was working patrol on both nights. Detective Gregory noted that on the 21st, Holtzclaw was downtown for a county jail arrest but his patrol car's AVL showed no unexplained stops or irregular behavior. Detective Gregory then expanded his search to all patrol officers who came within a two block radius of the City Rescue Mission that registered zero speeds on the patrol car’s AVL. That inquiry turned up nothing. According to his detailed report, Detective Gregory immediately sets out to locate Morris. Unfortunately, she is listed as homeless with no mobile telephone number. Detective Gregory places calls to numerous shelters, non-profits, and service providers that are often frequented by Oklahoma City's homeless population in search of Morris. Gregory also places calls to all known telephone numbers and associates of Morris. At 10:45 a.m., Detective Gregory calls Christopher Shelton and left a voice message. At 10:56, he calls a number listed in the Varuna database for Morris. That number turns out to be Morris' grandmother who lives in the area on East Hill Street. She claims she has not seen Morris in about a month. Detective Gregory leaves his information with her just in case Morris shows up.
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11:05, Gregory receives a call back from Christopher Shelton and conducts a telephone interview that lasts about twenty minutes. According to Detective Gregory's report, Shelton did not know where Morris was or how to get ahold of her. Shelton stated that he has known Morris for about fourteen years. He also claims Morris has no mental health issues, but that she did take some pills during a suicidal period in her life. Shelton also discloses that Morris used alcohol but made no mention of drug use. Shelton claims that though he's known Morris for a long time, they were only romantically involved for about a month and that was two months ago. He also said the two of them had lived with each other for a period of time in the past. Shelton claims that he has a current girlfriend but wouldn't disclose the woman's name. It was later learned it was the woman who had called 911 regarding Morris trying to break into her apartment. Shelton's version of events starts to change just a bit in this interview from the one he originally had with Officers Thomas, Williams and Lieutenant Holland. According to Gregory's report, Shelton didn't receive a phone call from Morris, but instead just happened to be driving down North Kelley Avenue from Northeast Thirty Sixth when he "saw Morris walking and almost it her." Shelton said Morris was very drunk (though we actually know she’s already admitted that she was high on crack) and that he stopped and told her that he would take her to her grandmother's house on East Hill, just a few blocks away. Shelton said it was during this ride that Morris mentioned "she was raped by the police." Shelton also mentioned that Morris was upset with him because he was with another woman and that she had tried to contact him about the rape. Shelton told Detective Gregory that he told Morris to be quiet and that he didn't want to hear about it because he didn't believe her. Morris continued to cuss at Shelton and refused to get out of his car when he stopped in front of her grandmother's. Morris told Shelton to take her to the Valero at Northeast Twenty Third and Kelley Avenue. However, once they arrived, Morris still refused to exit Shelton's vehicle. Shortly thereafter, Morris began tearing up the inside of Shelton's vehicle, ripping off the cover to his CD player and physically assaulting him.
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That's when Shelton said he called 911. Shelton said he didn't know many details about Morris' rape allegations, but he did know she said it happened last Tuesday or Wednesday. Shelton claims that Morris said the officer placed his hands between her legs. This is a detail that doesn't match the report Morris told the officers who responded to the Valero gas station. Another detail that is slightly different is that Shelton indicates the rape occurred while Morris was seated in the back off the patrol car. You'll recall that according to police reports, Morris told the officers at the Valero, she exited the patrol car, was forced to perform oral sex, and then placed back into the patrol car. Shelton confirmed that after he left the Valero he went to his girlfriend's apartment and that later that same early morning, Morris showed up banging on the doors and windows. With the interview concluded, Detective Gregory continued his search for Morris after hanging up with Shelton. At 5 p.m., Detective Gregory drives to the City Rescue Mission because he has been advised they couldn't release any information unless he was there in person. He is told that the last time Morris was at the facility was on May Twentieth. Detective Gregory is next joined by Lieutenant Tim Muzny. The two of them go in person to numerous locations trying to locate Morris. Those locations include Liberty Station Apartments, where Gregory and Muzny confirmed Morris' street name isTT. The two also went by local convenience stores and other apartment complexes in the area, none of which proved fruitful. Over the next few days, Gregory’s steady pace of inquiry continued and is detailed in police reports I've posted to this episode’s home page at holtzclawtrial.com. On June 2nd, around 11 a.m., Detective Gregory met with rookie officer Jonathan Thomas at police headquarters to go over his contact with Morris at the Valero gas station. Officer Thomas explained that he had only been on patrol for about a month when he responded to the Chris Shelton 911 call. Officer Thomas said that when he and his field training officer arrived, the first thing that she told them was that she had been raped by a police officer and that that rape occurred just a few days ago. According to Detective Gregory, Thomas recounts his interactions with Morris and her story, and they match previous reports. That said, I personally did note one difference. In this interview, police rookie Thomas now states that Morris was seated inside the patrol car when she was forced to perform oral sex. In his original report he stated Morris was outside the patrol car. Detective Gregory apparently missed this detail and did not ask for clarification. Detective Gregory did however note that, according to officers on the scene, Morris appeared to be consistent in her telling and retelling of her story. Morris also self-disclosed that she was a prostitute.
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When Detective Gregory asked rookie officer Thomas if he believed Morris, his response was, "maybe." Gregory states in his report he asked rookie officer Thomas to go over the story yet again. This time, according to Gregory's report, there are significant differences from rookie Thomas' original report and even his first telling of the incident in person to Detective Gregory just a few minutes ago. Detective Gregory now lists the following details: Morris is allegedly sober on the night of the rape; when she's standing outside of the patrol car, the officer tells her to pull down her pants and Morris replies no; Morris requests a female officer and she is given an ultimatum, "Go to jail or do it this way," indicating performing oral sex; after the rape, Morris was simply dropped off at an unknown location and doesn't recall where she went next. Morris claimed the first person she reported the rape to was Christopher Shelton. This would have been just minutes before Shelton called 911 on May 24, 2014. Officer Thomas specifically recalled asking Morris if the officer wore a condom. She replied no. Officer Thomas also asked Morris if her breasts were ever exposed. Again, no. But Morris did allegedly tell Thomas that the officer "did feel on her breasts a little bit." Each telling of the story has Morris standing outside the patrol car when she is made to unzip her pants. Lastly, Officer Thomas also stated that Morris pointed to his patrol car (a 2010 Crown Vic) and stated the officer who raped her was driving the same vehicle. All of these details and Morris' answers are going to become critical in this investigation, but somehow they will be totally discounted in Detective Gregory's relentless pursuit of Holtzclaw.
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The next day, June 3rd, at around 7 p.m., Detective Gregory is contacted by a confidential informant (or CI) referred to as ‘Cal’. Cal said he had just spotted Morris at Northeast Twenty Sixth and Urban League Court and that a patrol officer now had her in custody. Detective Gregory immediately drove to that location and met with Morris. When he arrived, Patrol Officer Kyle May stated that Morris was not happy about being detained and had been banging her head against the metal cage in the patrol car and was asking to be allowed to leave. In fact, Detective Gregory noted in his report "Morris immediately advised she did not want to go through with the investigation in regards to her sexual assault report on the unknown officer." Morris further stated that she did not want to pursue this matter any further and would not cooperate in the investigation. Detective Gregory though was not dissuaded. In fact, he basically lied to Morris when he let her believe that she had to come to the downtown police headquarters and fill out a refusal to prosecute form so that they could honor her wishes to be left alone. Feeling she had no other choice, Morris agreed. The following is a portion of the recording of Detective Gregory and Morris' first interview. This recording has been edited for time. A redacted version of this complete video recording will be posted to this episode's home page at holtzclawtrial.com.
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Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay, Terri Lynn. I’m sorry I took some time. Thank you so much for coming down.
Terri Morris:I don’t know what police to trust anymore.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay. Well, I don’t even know who the guy is. I understand your concern. Okay? And, like I say, I’ve worked sex crimes a long time. Okay? And I—I’ve put cops in jail. I’ve put handcuffs on cops. Well, you’ve been very difficult to find. Okay? And I think you’ve shown…
Terri Morris:I really wasn’t hiding, I just, I guess was I not at the right—or at the wrong place at the wrong ti—right time, whatever.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Yeah. I understand. You know I gotta encourage you to go through and talk to me, okay?
Terri Morris:[inaudible]
Det. Rocky Gregory:I—I can’t have this guy running around Oklahoma City.
Terri Morris:I—I, but somebody else can do it. I don’t want to. I just wanna leave it al—I went—I’m not trying to get these me—I just wanna get this out of my… [trails off].
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay.
Terri Morris:I just wanna be left alone.
Det. Rocky Gregory:I understand. And, and I’m not trying to harass you, okay?
Terri Morris:I take, I take a lot of medicines and I just want… [trails off].
Det. Rocky Gregory:Well, I—I, like I say, I’m not trying to harass you.
Terri Morris:I know.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay. I—I really…
Terri Morris:I know. I know. Just…
Det. Rocky Gregory:I’m just trying to look out for a lot of women out there.
Terri Morris:I know. I know.
Det. Rocky Gregory:And, and…
Terri Morris:But I just, I can’t do it. I’m not str—strong enough right now. I can’t.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay. Is it even… is it even possible that I could show you some pictures?
Terri Morris:No. I don’t want to please. Please. I just wanted to leave it alone. I just want to go. I just wanna go about my life. Please. Please don’t. I don’t wanna see him or nothing.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Well, well, I…
Terri Morris:Oh my god, no.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Well, I don’t even know if I have—my, my deal is is I don’t even wanna chase after the wrong guy, you know?
Terri Morris:Okay. But I don’t want to. Please don’t. I don’t wanna be a part of nothing, no more.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay. L—l—let me ask you, Terri. And I know you don’t…
Terri Morris:Don’t do this to me, please.
Det. Rocky Gregory:I know you don’t know me, okay? I know you don’t…
Terri Morris:But I just don’t wanna be a part of it no more. I already got… I was already scared from the get down and I just wanna leave it alone.
Det. Rocky Gregory:What would you think if they got stopped by this guy?
Terri Morris:They’re not, please, I don’t, I—I [inaudible] think right now. I can… that’s too much for me. This is too much for me.
Det. Rocky Gregory:It’s, it’s too much?
Terri Morris:Yeah, I just.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Is it…
Terri Morris:I don’t know before that I just got out the mental hospital before that happened to me. I just can’t.
Det. Rocky Gregory:[stuttering] is your mental health—what, what have you been diagnosed?
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Terri Morris:Paranoid schizophrenic with depressive features.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Schizophrenic?
Terri Morris:Post-traumatic disorder.
Det. Rocky Gregory:With, with what kind of features?
Terri Morris:Depressive.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay, do you know, it s—this says location of offense.
Terri Morris:It was at a shel—uh, downtown, I don’t know, downtown. Somewhere down here.
Det. Rocky Gregory:W—where was…
Terri Morris:I don’t want, I don’t wanna rehash this.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Oh, okay, but I‘m just trying to figure out what location so I can write it down.
Terri Morris:I don’t know. I don’t know because I’m not from downtown. I’m from the Northeast area. So I don’t know.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay. Okay. Terri.
Terri Morris:It didn’t seem that far away from the City Rescue Mission.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay.
Terri Morris:I don’t even… wasn’t really sure I was that far from the City Rescue Mission. He said that.
Det. Rocky Gregory:He said that?
Terri Morris:That we wasn’t that far. Then he said… I don’t wanna talk about this stuff. This is driving me… this messed up my whole life.
Det. Rocky Gregory:I—is there anything I can say to persuade you to change your mind?
Terri Morris:No. No, I just…
Det. Rocky Gregory:What if you needed more time?
Terri Morris:No, I just wanna get it—cause I’m leaving in, that’s why my anie’s coming to get me at the end of May cause I’m having a hard time dealing with this.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay. Well, I, you know, I, are you sure you wouldn’t look at a few pictures?
Terri Morris:Please don’t make me. Please. Don’t. No. Just. I sign here?
Det. Rocky Gregory:Yes ma’am. You know I wish you would talk with me.
Terri Morris:Yeah, I know.
Det. Rocky Gregory:I’m still gonna give you my, my phone number cause I hope, I hope you do. Cause I, I don’t want this guy on my police department.
Terri Morris:Me, I don’t want him near me.
Det. Rocky Gregory:I, I don’t want this guy to touch my daughters, your daughters.
Terri Morris:[inaudible] near me at all.
Det. Rocky Gregory:I can’t tell you. I—I—I just, I—I alm—I wanna beg you to give me information.
Terri Morris:Huh? I know. I [inaudible] person. Then I [inaudible] like he said.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay, Terri. He’s gonna take you back.
Terri Morris:Sorry, I’m so sorry.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Wherever, okay.
Unidentified officer:You wanna go back to the house on Urban League? Is that where I’m taking you? Okay.
Det. Rocky Gregory:You, if you change your mind, call that number, okay?
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Host:With Morris' signing of the refusal to prosecute form, Detective Gregory was forced to put the investigation on hold. Fast forward now to June 18th and the Ligons’ traffic stop and subsequent interrogation of Holtzclaw. You'll recall during the interrogation, Detective Gregory asked if he had any recollection of stopping someone named Terri Morris during the City Rescue Mission in downtown Oklahoma City and then giving them a ride. Daniel said he did not recall that name but was certain he's never patrolled that area and never given someone a ride to or from the City Rescue Mission. After the interrogation, Detective Gregory decided he needed to contact Terri Morris again. And once, again, CI, Cal, was able to locate Morris and contacted police, who detained Morris for Detective Gregory. Not to be too cynical, but what Detective Gregory claims happens next is like straight out of a script of a low budget cop movie. According to Detective Gregory, the moment Morris sees him walking up to her, she exclaims, "He did it again, didn't he?!" Cue the dramatic music and insert the eye rolls. I don't mean to be sarcastic here, and it may seem out of place, but trust me, I'll be getting into a plethora of provable lies by Detective Gregory in the coming episodes. Needless to say, and conveniently enough, that comment was not recorded. According to Detective Gregory, Morris was willing to cooperate in looking at a photo lineup and discussing details of the case but that she didn't want to be taken back to police headquarters. Detective Gregory had Detective Daniel Higginbottom show Morris the photo lineup and note her response. The following is an edited version of the audio from that photo lineup conducted with Terri Morris.
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Det. Rocky Gregory:This is Detective Gregory. Uh, I’m here with Terri Morris, at Northeast Twenty First and Kelley. It’s June 24 of 14 and it’s 6:32 p.m. Uh, I met with Terri, she said she would do a photo lineup. Terri, this is, uh, Detective Higginbottom. Okay.
Terri Morris:Yeah.
Det. Rocky Gregory:And he’s gonna speak with you and I’m gonna step on outta here, okay? Okay.
Terri Morris:Don’t leave me please.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay. I—I’m just gonna step right over there, okay?
Terri Morris:Okay.
Det. Rocky Gregory:All right.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Okay, Terri. How you doing?
Terri Morris:I’m fine.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:All right, can you hear me just fine?
Terri Morris:Yes, sir.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Okay. All right, Terri. In a moment, uh, you’ll be shown a series of photographs in random order. This series may or may not contain a photograph of the individual who committed the crime being investigated. You do not have to identify anyone. The person showing you the photographs does not know the photo—uh, photographic identity of the suspect. While looking at the photographs, keep in mind hair styles, facial hair, clothing, etcetera, are subject to change. Also, photographs do not always accurately depict a person’s complexion. It may be darker or lighter than it appears in the photograph. Also, disregard any differences in the shape, size, type, quality, or color in the photographs or the paper on which they are printed.
Terri Morris:[coughing] Excuse me. I’m sorry.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:It’s okay. You should only, uh, you should study only the person depicted in each photograph. Please do not speak to anyone other than the administrator while viewing the photographs. You must make your own decision and not be influenced by any other person.
Terri Morris:Yes.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:As you look at each photograph, if you see someone you recognize, please tell the administrator how you know the person. If you see a person you believe committed the crime, state in your own words how sure you are of the identification. Okay. Please do not indicate in any way or other witnesses you have or have not made in other identification. Okay, I have read or been advised of the above instructions and I fully understand them.
Terri Morris:Yes, sir.
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Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Okay, let’s just sign right there. And today’s date. It’s the, June 24th. Six twenty-four.
Terri Morris:Is that right?
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Okay. And it is approximately 6:37. You okay?
Terri Morris:Yeah.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Okay.
Terri Morris:I think so. That’s… that’s him.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Okay.
Terri Morris:I think.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Okay, well, let me…
Terri Morris:I don’t, wait…
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:I’ve got several photographs to show you.
Terri Morris:I don’t know.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:So…
Terri Morris:I’m not really sure.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Here’s the first one.
Terri Morris:It kinda look like him. No, that’s not him. No. I—I don’t know, it could be him.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Okay.
Terri Morris:See, that confused me there. No, that’s not him. No. No, not him. No.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:No?
Terri Morris:That number two. I can’t…
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Okay. Well, let’s go through it again.
Terri Morris:I wanted to see it. I’m not really sure. It may not be him.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Okay, we’ll start with this one.
Terri Morris:I don’t think it’s him.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:No? Okay.
Terri Morris:I don’t know. Man, I’m con--
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Yes or no?
Terri Morris:No. Could be.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Could be? Don’t know?
Terri Morris:No.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:No.
Terri Morris:No. No.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:No. Okay.
Terri Morris:Could be him.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Could be, don’t know.
Terri Morris:I just don’t know.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Don’t know. Okay.
Terri Morris:[loud noise] It’s, like, out of two.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Do what?
Terri Morris:It’s out of two pictures.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:I can’t hear you.
Terri Morris:I said it’s coming down to two pictures that it could be though.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Out of two pictures? Which two are those?
Terri Morris:This one and that one.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:These two?
Terri Morris:Yeah. I kinda see. I don’t remember though.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Okay.
Terri Morris:Let me see.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Well, if you don’t remember, you don’t remember. Okay? Not putting any pressure on you at all. You wanna make a decision on one?
Terri Morris:No.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:No?
Terri Morris:Cause I’m not positively.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Not positive. Okay. Just one of those two.
Terri Morris:Yeah.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Maybe. Is that what you’re saying?
Terri Morris:Yeah.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:What, what do you? Tell, tell me again.
Terri Morris:I’m gonna say that one but I’m not real real sure.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Okay. That’s your final answer?
Terri Morris:It could be that, it could be that one or that one. I don’t know.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:That’s your final answer?
Terri Morris:Yes.
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Okay.
Terri Morris:He had real dark hair [inaudible]
Det. Daniel Higginbottom:Okay, we’ll go ahead and conclude the interview at this time, okay?
Terri Morris:Okay.
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Host:While you're able to get a feel for how a photo lineup is conducted, since there was no video in that clip, you don't really get any sense as to which specific photos Morris is reacting to. According to Detective Gregory's report, Morris initially tentatively identified two officers as potential suspects in her sexual assault, Officer Jeff Dutton and Officer Daniel Holtzclaw. But, as you heard, she changed her mind several times and continuously stated she was uncertain and confused. It's also important to know who was not included in the photo lineup shown to Terri Morris. Detective Gregory intentionally left out Officer Jeff Sellers from the mix. I find this interesting. As previously reported, Gregory knows that Officer Sellers had had contact with Morris recently. More importantly, Officer Sellers has a relevant and disturbing past. In January of 2006, the Oklahoman newspaper reported that Officer Sellers had been fired from the department as the result of an internal affairs investigation that determined he had had sex with at least one prostitute while in uniform and on duty. That prostitute reportedly made monetary a claim against the city for alleged damages. Binding arbitration later forced the Oklahoma City Police Department to rehire Jeff Sellers. Detective Gregory was asked if he found it concerning that Officer Sellers had had recent contact with Morris and that he also was known to have sex with prostitutes while on duty. Detective Gregory claimed he didn't really know anything about that incident, even though it was widely reported on the news and was the topic of much conversation within the police department. As disturbing as the fact Officer Sellers was left out of the photo lineup is, exactly how Detective Gregory creates his photo lineups is even more concerning. I am quoting from page 3,312 of the jury trial transcript. Question: “Whenever you assemble a line-up what are you trying to do?” Detective Gregory's answer: “Basically what we do is we get six pictures together and then we have who we think maybe is the possible suspect somewhere in the middle of them. And we're just trying to see if the victim can identify who we think it is." This detective just admitted they allow their bias to dictate the direction of their investigation, all the way down to what photos are selected to show potential victims. After the photo lineup is complete, Detective Gregory sits down with Morris for the second time to try and interview her. The following is some edited audio from that interview.
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Det. Rocky Gregory:Here again, just kind of, I know you said you just, you didn’t want to talk about this…
Terri Morris:[Inaudible]
Det. Rocky Gregory:But I—I’d like for you to just answer a couple questions for me. Okay? Can you just run down through the story one more time for me?
Terri Morris:Uh, it’s like I done told this story, like, a thousand times.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay. But I’m trying to catch it here. Okay?
Terri Morris:Oh.
Det. Rocky Gregory:So, I don’t have to keep bothering you.
Terri Morris:Well, I was trying to find my way back to the rescue mission, because, uh, I don’t really know my way downtown very well and I was staying at City Rescue Mission. I had to come to the East side that day.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay.
Terri Morris:And, uh, the police car pulled up on me, and stopped, asked me my name, all that familiar stuff. Took my purse, search it, then put me in the car while he run a check. I didn’t have no warrants or nothing. Then, uh, well, I had, I had a, a pipe though. And he said, ‘I could take you to jail for this, you know?’ And I was like, oh, oh man, cause I relapsed because my boyfriend cheated on me.
Det. Rocky Gregory:And you what?
Terri Morris:My boyfriend cheated on me. We was just kinda breaking up.
Det. Rocky Gregory:All right, he, you found the pipe. Then what?
Terri Morris:Yeah, and, uh, so, he just kept kinda messing with it. Playing with it in the front. Then he got out. Came over. I was sitting there, like I’m sitting. He opened the door and he asked me, uh, he said, he asked me, uh, he said, uh, told me to unzip my pants. He said unzip, he said, ‘You got any panties on?’ He told me to raise my shirt up. Then he told me to give him some…
Det. Rocky Gregory:Did—did you raise your shirt up?
Terri Morris:Yeah.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Did he ask you to raise it so he could see your—your breasts?
Terri Morris:He didn’t say that, he just said raise your shirt up.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay.
Terri Morris:And he wanted me to unzip my pants. And I was like, ‘What?!’ cause I know it wasn’t right. Then he, uh, asked me for some, some, some oral sex.
Det. Rocky Gregory:What? How did he ask that?
Terri Morris:Oh, I can’t. He said, uh, ‘You give me some head and I won’t take you to jail.’ Or something he was saying.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay.
Terri Morris:I said, ‘Take me to jail for a pipe?’ I say, ‘You throwing them things away and break em.’
Det. Rocky Gregory:Then what?
Terri Morris:Then I just kinda got quiet and I cried and I asked him, ‘Please, don’t do thi—make me do it.’ And he said, ‘Just, just do it for a couple of minutes.’ Uh, then he would leave me alone, he said. So I did.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Did he take it out through his zipper?
Terri Morris:Y—uh…
Det. Rocky Gregory:Or above it?
Terri Morris:I don’t know. It was already, I don’t remember.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay.
Terri Morris:Yeah, I didn’t even see him.
Det. Rocky Gregory:How long did he have it?
Terri Morris:Uh, probably about a couple of minutes.
Det. Rocky Gregory:A couple minutes.
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Terri Morris:Then he wanted me to do it again. And uh, [inaudible] then he said, ‘You know you can’t tell anybody about this, Terri’ or something, and I said, ‘I just want get back to this mission. I just wanna go back City Rescue Mission. I’m just trying to find my way.’ And he says, uh, ‘You wanna ride?’ I said, ‘No, I can walk it.’ And he, and I got out and I was gonna make a step and he said, ‘No, I don’t want nothing to ha—bad to happen to you.’ He said, ‘Get back in the car.’ So, I got back in the car and I was like, ‘I can walk. I’ll find it.’ And then he pulls somewhere where he started going another route. And I seen it once and I was like, ‘Hey, that’s the place right there.’ He said, he said you know he was gonna go around or something.
Det. Rocky Gregory:The place meaning the rescue mission.
Terri Morris:Yeah. He said he was gonna go around cause he [inaudible] I said, ‘This ain’t the right way.’ And he said, and then he kinda pulled, he pulled somewhere not that far. It wasn’t far.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Did you stay at the mission that night?
Terri Morris:No, I left. I was just, I was traumatized. Still am.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay.
Terri Morris:It freaked me out.
Det. Rocky Gregory:And you said it was a car like this one. The older police car?
Terri Morris:Yeah.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay, describe him one more time.
Terri Morris:Oh.
Det. Rocky Gregory:You know this is important.
Terri Morris:I know, but I… just…
Det. Rocky Gregory:How tall? How tall do you think he is?
Terri Morris:About six one, maybe six two. Six feet. Anywhere.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay. What color hair?
Terri Morris:Dark brown, black.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay.
Terri Morris:Uh…
Det. Rocky Gregory:And was he clean shaven?
Terri Morris:Yeah.
Det. Rocky Gregory:What do you think he’d weigh?
Terri Morris:Uh, I’m not good with weight like that. I don’t know.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay. I’m six foot and I weigh two twenty.
Terri Morris:Okay, I’ll say maybe, uh, two sixty, two seventy. I don’t know.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay. All right. And he was what race?
Terri Morris:I can’t, I think he was white. Maybe he had some Indian in him or Irish or something, cause his skin complexion was, like, you know, like, a dark color.
Det. Rocky Gregory:He was darker? Okay.
Terri Morris:Like, he’s white, but it’s, like, I don’t know.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Did you see his eyes?
Terri Morris:I can’t remember, man.
Det. Rocky Gregory:You can’t remember. Okay.
Terri Morris:I wanna say they was blue, but I cannot remember.
Det. Rocky Gregory:You see any scars, marks or tattoos?
Terri Morris:No.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay. And was he thin or, how would—
Terri Morris:Nah, he was, like, solid muscular like.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Solid, muscular?
Terri Morris:Yeah.
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Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay. And had he ever stopped you before?
Terri Morris:I really don’t know. So many polices done stopped me.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Do you think he ran you that day?
Terri Morris:Huh?
Det. Rocky Gregory:You think he checked you for warrants?
Terri Morris:Who?
Det. Rocky Gregory:This officer.
Terri Morris:When?
Det. Rocky Gregory:The, the day that it happened. Do you think he—
Terri Morris:Well, he s—I don’t know, he was up there doing something on the thing, but I didn’t hear nobody get…
Det. Rocky Gregory:What thing? Like the computer like that?
Terri Morris:Yeah, but I didn’t ever hear nobody get back with him. Oh, I think, no, he did, cause he said I was clear.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Did you hear a radio?
Terri Morris:Um, I think so.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay.
Terri Morris:I’m getting confused now.
Det. Rocky Gregory:It’s okay. I—I don’t wanna confuse you.
Terri Morris:Shoot. I need my medicine now.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Do you remember him calling out your name? Like to a dispatch?
Terri Morris:Yeah, he said T. No, I don’t know. There was a mosquito. I th—I think he—I think he said my name. I’m not really sure anymore.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Do you think the computer was on?
Terri Morris:I don’t know. I was just scared to death.
Det. Rocky Gregory:You don’t know.
Terri Morris:I think it was.
Det. Rocky Gregory:So, you think you—you gave him head for two minutes?
Terri Morris:I don’t know, two or three. I don’t know.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Did he have his hands on you while you were doing this?
Terri Morris:No.
Det. Rocky Gregory:No?
Terri Morris:I don’t know. He may have. I can’t remember. It’s all… everything’s kinda jumbled all up. Ya’ll asking some hard questions. I can’t remember. My memory’s not that great. I don’t think so, but I’m not one—one—one hundred percent sure.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Is there anything you can think of that I didn’t ask?
Terri Morris:He had on a uniform like that.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Like, like mine?
Terri Morris:Looked like not a damn strand of hair didn’t look like it was out of place.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Do, do what?
Terri Morris:It didn’t look like none of his hair was out of place.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Did he have a part in his hair?
Terri Morris:Yeah. There.
Det. Rocky Gregory:You’re showing your left side, is that right?
Terri Morris:Well, I don’t know which side, being a part.
Det. Rocky Gregory:How old do you think he—
Terri Morris:Maybe it was that side.
Det. Rocky Gregory:How old do you think he was?
Terri Morris:Maybe, I don’t know. Thirties, forties. I don’t know [inaudible].
Det. Rocky Gregory:And what time of day do you think this happened?
Terri Morris:I don’t know, man. Maybe, I don’t know. About six, seven, eight. It was dark.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Oh, was it in the morning? Or was it the—in the afternoon?
Terri Morris:No, it was dark. It was evening. It was dark. It wasn’t late. But it was beginning, you know, it started getting dark. Just got dark. Hadn’t been dark that long.
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Det. Rocky Gregory:So, you’re not for sure on the time? Now, before, you s—you thought it was at the end of May. May 20th, 21st, is that still?
Terri Morris:Yeah.
Det. Rocky Gregory:That still sounds right?
Terri Morris:Yeah.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Like, just a couple days before you talked to the officers?
Terri Morris:Yes, sir.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay. Are you interested in going forward with this?
Terri Morris:No.
Det. Rocky Gregory:You sure?
Terri Morris:Yeah.
Det. Rocky Gregory:You know I want you to cause I told you about—
Terri Morris:Yeah, yes, sir. I know. I don’t wanna be involved no more. I’ve done, that’s all I can do. I just wanna put it behind me. I wanna…
Det. Rocky Gregory:You just what?
Terri Morris:Just, I wanna put it behind me. Get it out of my system.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Hang on one second, I need to ask, that you don’t know a, a Jannie?
Terri Morris:Jannie? I don’t know a Jannie.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Do you know a Jannie Ligons?
Terri Morris:No.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Black female. About fifty-seven years old.
Terri Morris:No. I don’t know her.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay. Now, you’re still saying a couple blocks from the mission?
Terri Morris:Yes.
Det. Rocky Gregory:I know I keep covering it but you know that there’s a reason. Do you know which direction?
Terri Morris:No, cause I didn’t even know my way around downtown, period. [inaudible]
Det. Rocky Gregory:Did he ever touch your breasts?
Terri Morris:No, he just told me to raise my shirt.
Det. Rocky Gregory:How far did you raise it?
Terri Morris:I raised it all the way up, like he told me.
Det. Rocky Gregory:So, did your boobs come out?
Terri Morris:Yeah.
Det. Rocky Gregory:What’d he do when you…?
Terri Morris:Nothing. Can I please go?
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay. I’m not gonna keep you. I just, but you understand why I—I’m asking all these questions.
Terri Morris:I don’t wanna answer no more questions. That’s a lot.
Det. Rocky Gregory:You got my phone number, right?
Terri Morris:Yeah, oh, your number, no, I need it again.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay. Hey, don’t be running on off. Hang on. I know you’re rip roaring ready. Grabbing your purse and ready to run. You got a FI card? Now, you remember my name, Detective Gregory.
Terri Morris:Yeah, I thought your name was Greg.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Even if you lose this, know I work at Sex Crimes, Oklahoma City. And all you gotta do is call downtown if you think of anything that would be helpful.
Terri Morris:Okay.
Det. Rocky Gregory:Okay.
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Host:We've now heard this very detailed version from Terri Morris numerous times. First, to each of the two officers that responded to the Valero gas station 911 call. Then, to Lieutenant Holland after she arrived on scene. We next heard it, each of the two times that Detective Rocky Gregory interviewed Morris. While some of the small details changed - inside the car, outside the car, breasts exposed, not exposed, touched, not touched - the main points remained constant. The rape occurred just a few days prior to Christopher Shelton's 911 call. Morris specifically stated either the 20th or 21st of May. Shelton was the first person Morris confided in. The sexual assault occurred in downtown Oklahoma City and Morris was walking from a drug rehabilitation center to the City Rescue Mission. The officer was driving an older model black and white 2010 Crown Vic. And lastly, the officer who raped her exposed his penis with little to no effort and he was not wearing a condom. All of these things Terri Morris was sure of and repeated over and over again. Next, throw in the fact that the very first time we hear about this rape is during what is often referred to as an unsolicited excited utterance in the background of Christopher Shelton's 911 call. Then, there's Morris' description of her attacker.... Mixed race, white male, at least six foot tall, solid muscle, about two hundred and sixty pounds, clean shaven with dark hair. It sounds a lot like Daniel Holtzclaw. I'd be insulting you if I didn't admit it didn't look good for Daniel. But what if I told you, Terri Morris is about to admit that the majority of her story is a complete and convenient lie. And she's not the only one caught lying. That and more in the next episode of Bates Investigates, the podcast, season one, The State of Oklahoma vs. Daniel Holtzclaw.
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